summertulip 2008-5-28 03:21
大灾难促使我们重温四圣谛
<font size="3">当一个个活生生的生命,我们的四川同胞,变成新闻发布网上一个漆黑的不断增长的阿拉伯数字</font><font size="3">,</font><font size="3">我们的心被撕</font><font size="3">开。</font><font size="3"> 当看到那些孩子遇难后的悲惨照片,痛心的不只是中国人,没有人不会为之动容。余震,余震,没完没了的余震! 当每个人都受伤,每颗心都受伤,我们对苦难,对这个世界是不是有了更深的认识?我想我们有必要再次回顾和思考四圣谛,以及重新思索生命和生活的意义。</font><span class="viewthreadtxt"></span><span class="viewthreadtxt"></span><p style="margin-top: 0pt; text-align: center; color: Black;"><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="3"><strong><br></strong></font></p><p style="margin-top: 0pt; text-align: center; color: Black;"><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="3"><strong><br></strong></font></p><p style="margin-top: 0pt; text-align: center; color: Black;"><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="3"><strong>The /v(T
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zaijiaren 2008-5-28 22:11
<P>不赞同,有缘者什么事中都可有四谛.无缘者什么事都没有四谛.</P>LwSBd/D
<P>英文看不懂.</P>
billinmon 2008-6-14 11:09
<font size="3">对于很多事情(不是说地震),每个人的感受非常不一样。同样的事情,比如疾病,死亡,感情冲突等等,有的人敏感很多(女性和有一些男性),感觉象心里面扎了一根刺,非常suffering,当然这些人也非常聪明和有艺术气质的。 有的人看得开些,不太当回事,或者有不同的看法和解决之道。</font><span style="font-weight: bold;">Character (性格)不同...<br><br></span><font size="3">学佛学也是没有办法的办法,也很不容易的。世界是复杂的,不可能有什么简单的解决办法。只要人类存在,大多数人的一生都有很多</font><font size="3">suffering。</font><font size="3">suffering 没有什么不好的,可以教会我们很多东西。去追求消除</font><font size="3">suffering本身是正确的吗?<br><br></font>Before you grow up, you get hurt.<br><font size="3"><br><br></font><font size="3"><br></font><font size="3"><strong><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"></font></strong></font>
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simple 2008-6-15 09:27
<P><FONT size=3>答楼上师兄:</FONT></P>;a7f$z-x}5[
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<P><FONT size=3>楼上师兄说“suffering 没有什么不好的,可以教会我们很多东西”,</FONT></P>r`U&n)@L*f
<P><FONT size=3>其实想从suffering学习不也是为了离苦得乐吗?否则知识有何用处?<BR><FONT size=3>谁都希望好好活下去,所以人在肚子饿时会想吃饭、冷了会想穿衣、困了会想睡觉。</FONT></P>P2A ^;SHe%ic2y$ZW
<P><FONT size=3>因此去追求消除suffering本身并没有错,但用什么方法去除苦很重要。</FONT></P>
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<P>人修行是为了断苦,人求世俗名利等也是为了不受苦,甚至人在想去自杀时也是为了除去苦。<BR>不过各人断苦的方式不一样而已,我比较喜欢佛教提供的关于如何断苦的方法。</FONT></P>
billinmon 2008-6-15 11:41
我话还没有说完呢,我还没有展开说。我过两年说。<br>a3Mi-qc
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summertulip 2008-6-17 12:12
不好意思,最近一段时间会很忙,不太有时间上网和联系了。
死 2008-6-25 10:14
summertulip您好
刚有一个巴利文新班开班了,在网上授课,我不记得哪个E-mail是你的了,我也发不了文,只能用回复的方式和你联系。你要是感兴趣的话和可以我联系:QQ:53780651<br>
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你又复活了,<img smilieid="1" src="images/smilies/default/smile.gif" border="0"><br>]2O~/]"~5fVQPpZ
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谢谢提供的讯息!QQ号记下了,不过我一般不用QQ,邮箱地址回头短信发给你。<br>"Sh.q.AA
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我的想法是现在也没有太大必要去学习巴利文,已经有不少人专门去学,经典也都翻译过来了,英文版已经较为完整。语言说到底只是工具而已。要善于利用已有的v6YKJXzh|A
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资源,站在别人肩膀上,才不辜负那些人的劳动,:)学习一门语言不如去学习它传达的道理。当然这只是我当前自己的一点儿想法,对有志去学的朋友
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死 2008-6-25 14:37
“已经有不少人专门去学”,我认为这不是事实。只此一点,别的方面你说得都很对。<br>
summertulip 2008-6-26 00:33
指的是母语为英语的学者。 <br> <br>不知你现在哪里。我有不错的课本,如果需要,9月中旬可与我联系<br>
死 2008-6-26 07:38
是的。<br>我这里也有一些不错的巴利文教材,你推荐的是哪一种?可否做一简单介绍?以免重复寄送多费邮费。<br>
summertulip 2008-6-26 22:45
10年了,恍如一梦。当时也是斯里兰卡法师给上的课。这语言有一定难度,我觉得一定量的面对面教学是必要的。<br><br>书现在不在手边,记不清作者了。是巴,英对照。从字母表开始。循序渐进,编写的还可以,应该没有版权,可以复印给大家用。过些时候我会回国,然后再把详情发给你。<br><br>邮件收到,再次感谢您的邀请!以后有事请用邮件联系吧<br>
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